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	<title>Comments on: Why I Think RaceFail Was The Bestest Thing Evar for SFF</title>
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		<title>By: Some points of general interest. &#124; Epiphany 2.0</title>
		<link>http://nkjemisin.com/2010/01/why-i-think-racefail-was-the-bestest-thing-evar-for-sff/#comment-5468</link>
		<dc:creator>Some points of general interest. &#124; Epiphany 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 21:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 6. Orbit did not buy my books after, or as a result of, RaceFail. Anybody who can count and read a calendar should be able to figure this out, but to make it clear &#8212; RaceFail was in early 2009. The Inheritance Trilogy sold in early 2008. Stuff in publishing takes a looooong time. If there is any publishing-related fallout from RaceFail that we can see and parse as such, it won&#8217;t start to appear until this year at the earliest, most likely next year or the year after. The changes I&#8217;ve seen thus far are more intrinsic and subtle. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 6. Orbit did not buy my books after, or as a result of, RaceFail. Anybody who can count and read a calendar should be able to figure this out, but to make it clear &#8212; RaceFail was in early 2009. The Inheritance Trilogy sold in early 2008. Stuff in publishing takes a looooong time. If there is any publishing-related fallout from RaceFail that we can see and parse as such, it won&#8217;t start to appear until this year at the earliest, most likely next year or the year after. The changes I&#8217;ve seen thus far are more intrinsic and subtle. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Bubble Problem &#171; shattersnipe: malcontent &#38; rainbows</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Bubble Problem &#171; shattersnipe: malcontent &#38; rainbows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 01:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms, I devoured late last week. Specifically, I&#8217;ve been reading this post on racism, and this post on comforting dystopias, and they are, in tandem, the reason I sat down to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms, I devoured late last week. Specifically, I&#8217;ve been reading this post on racism, and this post on comforting dystopias, and they are, in tandem, the reason I sat down to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Comforting Futures, and Whether (or Why) We Should Avoid Them &#124; Epiphany 2.0</title>
		<link>http://nkjemisin.com/2010/01/why-i-think-racefail-was-the-bestest-thing-evar-for-sff/#comment-4573</link>
		<dc:creator>Comforting Futures, and Whether (or Why) We Should Avoid Them &#124; Epiphany 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post this yesterday, but was traveling for the weekend and got home exhausted. So this continues my one-year-long &#8220;tradition&#8221; of writing anti-oppression-related posts on MLK Day; it&#8217;s just late, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] post this yesterday, but was traveling for the weekend and got home exhausted. So this continues my one-year-long &#8220;tradition&#8221; of writing anti-oppression-related posts on MLK Day; it&#8217;s just late, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Shveta Thakrar</title>
		<link>http://nkjemisin.com/2010/01/why-i-think-racefail-was-the-bestest-thing-evar-for-sff/#comment-4099</link>
		<dc:creator>Shveta Thakrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 15:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I somehow missed this when you first wrote it, but I am mentally clapping.  What a great post.  Thank you, Nora.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I somehow missed this when you first wrote it, but I am mentally clapping.  What a great post.  Thank you, Nora.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Lynx</title>
		<link>http://nkjemisin.com/2010/01/why-i-think-racefail-was-the-bestest-thing-evar-for-sff/#comment-3987</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss Lynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 18:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to chime in on a post that&#039;s most of a year old, but I just stumbled across it now, and just wanted to say I very much agree with what you&#039;ve written. 

Any time you&#039;ve got a problem that a lot of people would prefer to stay in denial about, just being calm and &quot;reasonable&quot; and politely saying &quot;Oh excuse me, I believe may have a problem over here, if it&#039;s not too much trouble...&quot; is likely to be ignored. More often that not, it takes someone (or many someones, as the case may be), saying something more like &quot;HEY! YOU! YES, YOU! GET OFF YOUR ASS AND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS ***ING PROBLEM!&quot; before the oblivious masses start paying attention. And then of course, they&#039;re terribly upset that OMG, someone was &lt;i&gt;mean&lt;/i&gt; to them, but at least they&#039;re paying &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; degree of attention, which means that, just possibly, the calm-and-reasoned approach &lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt; then stand a chance of being heard.

Also, I really liked your &quot;sleeper agents&quot; analogy in your reply to Kev McVeigh. I&#039;ve run into that with regard to other oppressions as well - sexism, homophobia, etc. And yes, it hits a lot harder when the horrifically clueless comments come from a totally unexpected source. :-/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to chime in on a post that&#8217;s most of a year old, but I just stumbled across it now, and just wanted to say I very much agree with what you&#8217;ve written. </p>
<p>Any time you&#8217;ve got a problem that a lot of people would prefer to stay in denial about, just being calm and &#8220;reasonable&#8221; and politely saying &#8220;Oh excuse me, I believe may have a problem over here, if it&#8217;s not too much trouble&#8230;&#8221; is likely to be ignored. More often that not, it takes someone (or many someones, as the case may be), saying something more like &#8220;HEY! YOU! YES, YOU! GET OFF YOUR ASS AND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS ***ING PROBLEM!&#8221; before the oblivious masses start paying attention. And then of course, they&#8217;re terribly upset that OMG, someone was <i>mean</i> to them, but at least they&#8217;re paying <i>some</i> degree of attention, which means that, just possibly, the calm-and-reasoned approach <i>might</i> then stand a chance of being heard.</p>
<p>Also, I really liked your &#8220;sleeper agents&#8221; analogy in your reply to Kev McVeigh. I&#8217;ve run into that with regard to other oppressions as well &#8211; sexism, homophobia, etc. And yes, it hits a lot harder when the horrifically clueless comments come from a totally unexpected source. :-/</p>
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		<title>By: Tobu</title>
		<link>http://nkjemisin.com/2010/01/why-i-think-racefail-was-the-bestest-thing-evar-for-sff/#comment-3925</link>
		<dc:creator>Tobu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 02:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was considering replying, but now I think I&#039;ll just applaud.

Thank you for such a well-phrased and civil response to a post so full of possibly well-meant, but nevertheless frustrating blind privilege.

I&#039;m not sure I could have put it as well, let alone better, myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was considering replying, but now I think I&#8217;ll just applaud.</p>
<p>Thank you for such a well-phrased and civil response to a post so full of possibly well-meant, but nevertheless frustrating blind privilege.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I could have put it as well, let alone better, myself.</p>
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		<title>By: gordsellar</title>
		<link>http://nkjemisin.com/2010/01/why-i-think-racefail-was-the-bestest-thing-evar-for-sff/#comment-3924</link>
		<dc:creator>gordsellar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me, patient? Hahahaha!

I imagine you&#039;re right: one gets tired explaining the same basic stuff again and again. Especially when one has a sense that the ill-informed commenter is &quot;Simply Explaining How It Is&quot; to the original poster, and likely won&#039;t read responses.

On the other hand, I don&#039;t know that the answers to these questions actually &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; out there in a really accessible form. I&#039;m still waiting for the book of essays that summarizes the scope and content of the discussion in a way that takes a day or a week to read, rather than three months. 

I&#039;m starting to wonder if maybe some kind of blog carnivale is in order? Or perhaps an actual book of essays... hm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me, patient? Hahahaha!</p>
<p>I imagine you&#8217;re right: one gets tired explaining the same basic stuff again and again. Especially when one has a sense that the ill-informed commenter is &#8220;Simply Explaining How It Is&#8221; to the original poster, and likely won&#8217;t read responses.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I don&#8217;t know that the answers to these questions actually <em>are</em> out there in a really accessible form. I&#8217;m still waiting for the book of essays that summarizes the scope and content of the discussion in a way that takes a day or a week to read, rather than three months. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m starting to wonder if maybe some kind of blog carnivale is in order? Or perhaps an actual book of essays&#8230; hm.</p>
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		<title>By: Nalo Hopkinson</title>
		<link>http://nkjemisin.com/2010/01/why-i-think-racefail-was-the-bestest-thing-evar-for-sff/#comment-3922</link>
		<dc:creator>Nalo Hopkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gord, you&#039;re a patient soul.  I suspect no-one rushed to answer because these questions are so basic, are classic derailment tactics, and have been responded to so many times.  If this person is really interested in the issue, the answers are right there in front of them and easy to find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gord, you&#8217;re a patient soul.  I suspect no-one rushed to answer because these questions are so basic, are classic derailment tactics, and have been responded to so many times.  If this person is really interested in the issue, the answers are right there in front of them and easy to find.</p>
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		<title>By: Foxessa</title>
		<link>http://nkjemisin.com/2010/01/why-i-think-racefail-was-the-bestest-thing-evar-for-sff/#comment-3921</link>
		<dc:creator>Foxessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 12:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If &#039;race&#039; (an artificial, non scientific term and construct) matters not at all to you, and you believe it matters not at all to sf and Fantasy, why are you commenting about these matters in September to a post that went up way back at the start of 2010?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If &#8216;race&#8217; (an artificial, non scientific term and construct) matters not at all to you, and you believe it matters not at all to sf and Fantasy, why are you commenting about these matters in September to a post that went up way back at the start of 2010?</p>
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		<title>By: Sara A.</title>
		<link>http://nkjemisin.com/2010/01/why-i-think-racefail-was-the-bestest-thing-evar-for-sff/#comment-3920</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 12:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Discussing race (or gender, or sexuality, or class) inequities in SF does not create them.  Just because you were studiously ignoring the pachyderm in the parlor doesn&#039;t mean it wasn&#039;t there the whole time.  And just because someone points out said elephant, it doesn&#039;t mean they rode in on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Discussing race (or gender, or sexuality, or class) inequities in SF does not create them.  Just because you were studiously ignoring the pachyderm in the parlor doesn&#8217;t mean it wasn&#8217;t there the whole time.  And just because someone points out said elephant, it doesn&#8217;t mean they rode in on it.</p>
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